Canon 5d Mk Iv Vs R6

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Thoughts of R6 Owners who “upgraded” from a 5D4 (or similar DSLR, or an RP)?


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Hi all,

Merely want to get the thoughts of folks who previously used a 5D Mark IV, or “5D4” (or other similar 5D photographic camera) who decided to give information technology up for an R6. What do you similar well-nigh your “new” R6, and what (if annihilation) do you miss nearly your sometime DSLR? Are you primarily a stills shooter or do you as well do video (or desire to do video), and did that aid influence your decision to switch? Also folks that used to have an RP, merely decided to trade it in for an R6 – what practice you think? Do you miss the extra resolution? The pocket-sized size? Practice you discover it to be more responsive, or more reliable as a camera?

I’thou mainly looking to R6 owners here… I’ve been reading reviews, watching videos on how it stacks upwards to the 5D4 for like use cases and wanted to become more people’due south thoughts. People seem to like the AF system and ability to rails. The 5D4 for me has probably the best AF tracking ability (and high ISO performance) of whatever photographic camera I’ve used thus far. It’s not perfect, of grade, far from it, but it has come through more than once when faced with super dimly-lit water ice shows. Folks too seem to talk virtually the eye tracking…but that’s just ok on my RP, and then I adopt to but manually movement the indicate myself.

Just would like to know if folks like their R6, if they miss their sometime DSLR, or even if there’s something they wish they knew before they made the switchover from DSLR to MILC…just gathering data for at present. I was never i of those looking to completely jump send to the RF system – costs aside, I think there are nonetheless many unknowns almost the longevity and reliability of RF lenses and Canon MILCs. That said, I’ve found I’ve been taking more of a slower, “bottom-up” type approach to this…and every bit an RP user I observe myself starting to look closer at the R6.

Cheers in advance for any thoughts!

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Howdy all,

Just want to get the thoughts of folks who previously used a 5D Mark IV, or “5D4” (or other similar 5D camera) who decided to give it upwardly for an R6. What do you similar well-nigh your “new” R6, and what (if anything) practise y’all miss nigh your sometime DSLR? Are you primarily a stills shooter or do y’all also practise video (or want to exercise video), and did that help influence your decision to switch? Also folks that used to have an RP, merely decided to trade information technology in for an R6 – what do you think? Practise you lot miss the extra resolution? The pocket-sized size? Do you discover it to be more responsive, or more reliable as a camera?

I’thou mainly looking to R6 owners here… I’ve been reading reviews, watching videos on how it stacks up to the 5D4 for similar use cases and wanted to get more than people’s thoughts. People seem to like the AF system and ability to track. The 5D4 for me has probably the best AF tracking ability (and high ISO performance) of whatever photographic camera I’ve used thus far. It’due south not perfect, of course, far from it, merely it has come through more than than once when faced with super dimly-lit ice shows. Folks too seem to talk about the middle tracking…merely that’southward merely ok on my RP, and so I prefer to only manually motion the point myself.

Just would like to know if folks like their R6, if they miss their old DSLR, or even if there’s something they wish they knew before they fabricated the switchover from DSLR to MILC…but gathering data for now. I was never ane of those looking to completely jump ship to the RF organization – costs aside, I call back there are still many unknowns about the longevity and reliability of RF lenses and Canon MILCs. That said, I’ve institute I’ve been taking more of a slower, “bottom-up” type approach to this…and equally an RP user I find myself starting to look closer at the R6.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts!

Not having an R system camera I cannot reply your question, I’yard afraid, but I will be interested to see the answers too if anyone responds.

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Depends on where yous are coming from and where yous plan to finish upward.

I’m primarily a stills shooter from film A1/FD lenses in the 1970s to a 1DX2 with L glass. I took a similar bottom-up approach in the D serial coming from pic. 550D – 6D – 1DX2. The 1DX2 was a huge improvement from my 6D. Using the same approach with the R series, except I skipped the R/RP. So far the R6 hasn’t been much of a step dorsum from the 1DX2 although I am shooting less due to COVID. The merely real gap may exist sports, just I haven’t shot any recently.

I started collecting EF L drinking glass with the 550D and have quite a flake of 50 drinking glass which I keep to use on the R6, primarily primes and wide – 35 Lf/ane.4, 85L f/1.four, 100L f/2.8 macro, 135L f/2, 8-15L f/4, 11-24L f/4, 24-70L f/two.8 and lxx-200L f/2.viii. I’m just using the EF 100-400L on the 1DX2 and the EF 70-300L on my M6m2 these days.

My RF lens purchases have too been lesser upwards, RF 24-240, RF 100-400, RF 800, RF 1.4x, and RF 50/1.8. This is a nice kit with the R6 for almost of my needs. When I get more serious or accept special situations I can pull out the EF L glass and/or the 1DX2 just I haven’t had as well many occassions then far. I’ll be interested to come across what other RF lenses appear in the future, but I don’t see myself investing equally much in the RF L series unless my photography takes off.

The R6 has filled the gap betwixt my M6m2 and 1DX2 and mostly replaced the 1DX2. I still like the small course gene on my M6 for everyday and travel shooting. I thought of upgrading eventually to R5/R3/R?, simply I’m in no hurry and can wait to come across what else comes out. The R7/R10 don’t involvement me, although the RF800 on an R7 could exist interesting. I’ll look to meet what others think. I’k happy with the RF 800 and RF 1.4x on the R6 at this point.



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I wasn’t quite the same shift, merely I’ll give you my thoughts. I’m primarily a casual photographer that generally does stills when travelling.

Had a 5D4 (and loved it, of grade!), and bought the RP when it came out to try out. I realised a year afterwards that I hadn’t picked up the 5D4 in that yr – every time I preferred the RP because of it’s size advantage and overall excellent AF for the sort of thng I was doing. It was a clear downgrade in some ways, but a clear upgrade for the things that mattered to me.

I sold the 5D4 (reluctantly, nervously), and bought an R when they were cheap instead. Didn’t await back in one case. For my purposes, the R was an upgrade in every respect. i’ve heard some people claiming worse autofocus in depression light, and I’m sure it’southward a matter nether some circumstances, merely in other situations, I found the R more reliable.

I subsequently replaced the R with the R5, with is just magnificent.
I actually like the eye AF on the R5, and while I’m withal mostly ‘spot’ focus, I really similar the touchscreen ‘drag to move the focus betoken’, which is pretty speedy most of the time.

The R5 feels ‘lazy’ compared to the 5D4. Gear up the autofocus modes appropriately, then just point and shoot, and most of the time it just gets it correct. It’due south only likewise like shooting fish in a barrel. More smart applied science reduces the need to concentrate on camera settings and practical photography skill, freeing me upward to focus more on where it matters and where I’one thousand weakest: composition. I discover myself thinking less about how to use the photographic camera, and more than about ‘how volition this look’. Good for a casual amateur like me.

Re:resolution. When I moved from the 5D4 to the lower resolution of the RP, it just didn’t thing. information technology wasn’t a large plenty drop to make any practical difference at normal viewing sizes. I sympathize the R6 is a bigger driblet, and if you do a lot of cropping, then that may matter more to y’all. It didn’t for me.



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Thanks to both of you for your thoughts!

My RF lens purchases have also been bottom up, RF 24-240, RF 100-400, RF 800, RF 1.4x, and RF fifty/1.8. This is a nice kit with the R6 for about of my needs. When I get more than serious or have special situations I can pull out the EF L glass and/or the 1DX2 merely I haven’t had too many occassions so far.

This is where I’chiliad at also – started with the RP (cost-wise it made sense dorsum when it was beingness bundled with adapter/grip/etc.) and RF 35 f1.viii. After on added the RF 85 f2. Those are the but 2 RF lenses I have and so far. They replaced the EF 35 f2 IS and EF 100 f2 which I had prior. MILC mainly for dabbling in, DSLR for the serious stuff or when I care about the terminal results/desire maximum reliability and dependability. Fairly invested in the EF lens arrangement besides.

ETA: In using your R6, do you lot find that you wish it had certain features of your 1DX II? Just curious.

Had a 5D4 (and loved it, of course!), and bought the RP when it came out to endeavor out. I realised a year later that I hadn’t picked up the 5D4 in that year – every fourth dimension I preferred the RP because of it’s size reward and overall excellent AF for the sort of thng I was doing. Information technology was a clear downgrade in some means, but a clear upgrade for the things that mattered to me.

I sold the 5D4 (reluctantly, nervously), and bought an R when they were inexpensive instead. Didn’t look dorsum in one case. For my purposes, the R was an upgrade in every respect. i’ve heard some people challenge worse autofocus in low light, and I’m sure it’s a thing under some circumstances, but in other situations, I found the R more than reliable.

Interesting. I thought almost the R as well, just merely personally couldn’t get over the treatment when I tried it in store. Information technology felt like a downgrade in every respect from my 5D4 unfortunately. That said, I did consider information technology briefly for use alongside the 5D4 earlier I went with the RP. I preferred the latter due to price, ergonomics, and size. I similar the size of the RP also and I think it complemented both my 5D4 and my 5DSR quite well when needed.

State of affairs has changed a lot since everything hit, though, and the 5D4, which was used mostly for events that I haven’t since been dorsum to or that are still dormant, has at present been sitting by and large unused and I establish myself picking up the RP more for coincidental shooting every bit I become back into things. The flip screen and the freedom of limerick (AF spread) is quite liberating in many ways. Just wish the camera had better focus precision (not accuracy)…DSLRs are still better at pinpoint focusing, I find…MUCH amend. When I do grab a DSLR, recently it’s been the 5DSR, which I’ve committed to keeping for the long haul (I detect the OOC colors from the RP and newer Canons very underwhelming…the 5DS notwithstanding has the old-schoolhouse vibrant colors). Still, I find myself wanting to hang onto the 5D4 in instance events start up again and speed becomes important to me once again.

Interesting that y’all found the AF of the R to be more reliable. Is this tied mostly to tracking ability? Or only AF consistency? I do find that my RP has decent focus accuracy besides…the 5D4 is no slouch, though, in my experience.

Re:resolution. When I moved from the 5D4 to the lower resolution of the RP, information technology only didn’t matter. information technology wasn’t a big enough drop to brand whatever applied difference at normal viewing sizes. I understand the R6 is a bigger drop, and if you do a lot of cropping, then that may matter more to you. It didn’t for me.

Well, that’southward only the difference betwixt 26 (RP) and 30 (5D4) MP, which is adequately miniscule, and so I understand. I don’t notice much of a difference myself between files from both of those cameras. I do crop occasionally and almost immediately noticed the difference in cropping latitude when I upgraded from my previous 5D3 (22MP). That said, I still loved the output from that 5D3 and actually kept/used it for several months after upgrading earlier I finally decided to let it become. To this solar day sometimes I miss its vibrant colors and precipitous output (the 5D4 was an improvement though in just near every other aspect, including AF consistency, critically). At least the 5DSR however supplies that, albeit at a college resolution/with fewer lenses.

Speaking of higher resolution, this is probably why I’k less bothered past the R6 having 20MP – I figure if I ever went that route I’d probably just compensate by using the 5DSR more and mainly take reward of the better low-lite, loftier ISO performance and faster speed when necessary.



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ETA: In using your R6, do you discover that you wish it had sure features of your 1DX Two? Only curious.

Not so far. But I’m a advanced amateur that never actually took full advantage of the capabilities 1DX2. I got it after hitting the limitations of the 6D and figured the same might happen if I picked up a 5Dx, then I just splurged a bit for the 1DX2. That gave me the maximum possible capabilities to expand my skills. And I did learn quite a fleck more with information technology and shoot things I never thought possible with the 6D.

The R6 seems to match my shooting way and skills quite well at this signal. It is different so I’thousand yet learning how to become the most out of it, but I’m pretty much back to where I was with the 1DX2. Information technology may not measure up for BIF and grandkid sports, simply that remains to be seen. I’m waiting to come across the upcoming body alternatives while figuring out what capabilities the R6 is lacking for me. Looks like I volition have a few choices if/when I decide to upgrade.



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Interesting. Thanks for your thoughts on this. I understand where you’re coming from every bit well, that’s part of the reason I went from a 60D to a 5D around 10 years ago…it may not make my shots meliorate per se, but it certain makes the logistics of certain kinds of shooting MUCH easier!

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Enthusiast here. I went from a T3i to an R to an R6.

Needless to say, the jump from the T3i to the R was zilch short of miraculous, in my eyes. Going from the R to the R6 was much less heady, merely still a very worthwhile upgrade, in my opinion. On that, here are a few thoughts:

– The ergonomics and controls of the R6 are superior to the R (and the RP), and would exist on par with the 5D Mk Iv.
– The R6’south autofocus tracking is awesome. The R was pretty good, but the R6 is on some other level. Say goodbye to manually moving the focus point (in most cases) as you mentioned above. There’s no going back to whatever DSLR for me…I’g spoiled now. My 4-year-onetime daughter or my dog runs around…information technology tracks the eye…I compose. So like shooting fish in a barrel, it feels similar cheating. This applies to both photo and video.
– I very much like the low-lite jitter removal (I don’t call up the setting name) the R6 has. The R’due south viewfinder and rear brandish always got jumpy in depression lite, which drove me basics. I assume the RP has the same result. Only combining that jitter removal with the 120 Hz refresh rate (used as needed)…certain gets close to feeling similar an OVF with the added benefits of live view.
– I, personally, do not need more xx MP. Equally a affair of fact, I much prefer 20 MP since I don’t do much cropping and appreciate the smaller file sizes.
– IBIS is certainly dainty to have, particularly in depression light while using non-IS lenses.
– Equally far as lenses become, I take taken the approach of
not
attempting to replace EF glass with RF glass. Information technology’s only non worth it to me in almost cases. Although the RF fifty f/1.2 and RF 70-200 f/four sure are tempting, I withal can’t justify them. I did, however, fill in a couple of gaps in my lineup with RF lenses which I did not have EF equivalents for.

In short, unless you have a existent need for more than 20 MP, I think the R6 is i hell of an upgrade over a comparable DSLR. Simply once again, this is coming from a not-pro.
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– I very much like the low-lite jitter removal (I don’t recollect the setting name) the R6 has. The R’southward viewfinder and rear brandish always got jumpy in depression light, which collection me nuts.
I assume the RP has the same issue.
But combining that jitter removal with the 120 Hz refresh rate (used equally needed)…certain gets close to feeling like an OVF with the added benefits of live view.

In my personal experience I’ve merely had occasional “flare ups” concerning lag in the viewfinder in low light – most of the fourth dimension it’s been ok for me. I call back it might have to practice with using longer exposures and/or attempting to focus in depression light…or perchance it gets worse with slower lenses or adjusted lenses? I utilise mostly the RF 35mm f1.8 and 85 f2 on that camera and haven’t had any major problems, but perhaps it’s different when using an f4 or slower lens?

Equally ever, thank you for your thoughts! I do wish the RP had some kind of joystick for AF pick or back scroll bike, but other than that I find the ergonomics to be fairly decent.



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Just to follow up, two things.

First, I FINALLY got to effort out an R6 in person at a local shop – I really liked its experience and handling, and it felt pretty quick to me. Seemed like a absurd gadget and all – I tin can understand the hype to some caste.

Second, given the recent bargain on the R, I decided that as a adjacent step into Canon MILC FF I’d trade up from the RP and try one out. I like that it’south 30MP (like the 5D4) and that it’south $1K+ less than the R6 and R5. Honestly, it’s amend than I idea it would exist considering the early reviews it got…simply then once again, I but shoot stills, and don’t really do video. Would be great if it had a joystick & scroll wheel, probably my just major complaint ergonomics-wise (only no different from the RP in this regard). The lack of a mode dial is weird for me given that every camera I’ve had up to this betoken has had i, but I’m finding that the single-button option to quickly switch to custom mode shooting may help to brand upwards for it. OTOH, it feels much better to hold in my hand and the RF 85 f2 balances much amend on this body. Adjusted EF lenses also remainder improve…

I sold the 5D4 (reluctantly, nervously), and bought an R when they were cheap instead. Didn’t look back once. For my purposes, the R was an upgrade in every respect. i’ve heard some people challenge worse autofocus in low light, and I’m sure it’s a matter nether some circumstances, simply in other situations, I found the R more reliable.

I don’t have plenty experience with the camera yet but for the most part, no AF issues with any of the lenses I’ve tried and so far. I volition say that’s one thing that’s somewhat refreshing about these new mirrorless cameras…not having to worry about or deal with AFMA. Keeping my 5D4…at to the lowest degree for now. The 5D is faster, has dual card slots and I’ll still pick up a DSLR if I’m serious nigh getting the shot. Simply at that place’south certainly a lot of potential with MILC…



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I loved my 5DM4. Probably the biggest problem I had was with noise in low light weather. I shoot ballet, among other things. I purchased the R6 and NEVER regretted information technology. I tin can shoot in super low light conditions, crank upwards the ISO, and no noise. The eye tracking is insane. I would highly recommend this camera to you lot. I gave my 5DM4 to my wife and she is happily shooting wildlife. Win/Win. Yous tin keep your EF lenses if you would like. IS, sensor, fast af, and better IQ = ane happy photographer. Best of luck to you, and happy shooting!


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I’m a part time professional. Replaced my 6D with an R every bit a second camera to my 5DsR. Never used the 5DsR once I got the R. Much better handling and focusing camera. Sold the 5DsR and got an R6 with the R. I shoot a lot of events and prefer the small cRAW files compared to the R5. The R6 is an nearly perfect events and nuptials camera. I regularly shoot ISO 6400 and eye tracking AF is keen. For this work 20 MP is fine. For large landscape photos twenty MP is on the low side and the R is unremarkably sufficient.


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I went from 5DIV to R6 since November 2021 and my thoughts so far as an amateur stills lensman:

PROS R6

  • Autofocus system is very impressive.
    • This was my main reason for upgrading – AF system is the aforementioned as the 1DX III.
    • Heart-tracking is amazing. You tin can concentrate on composition more.
    • EF lenses that had backfocus/frontfocus problems (e.g. Sigma 50mm 1.4 Fine art) work amazingly better
  • You tin can shoot at very loftier ISOs and in that location’s barely any noise.
  • Lower MPs = less processing power and storage infinite.
  • Smaller size is appreciated.
  • FPS is top notch.

CONS

  • I miss the extra megapixels of the 5DIV.
    • Images are not as detailed and cropping is limited with just 20 MP. 30 MP would’ve been really great as the R5’south 45 MP is actually a LOT.
    • Less epitome details reminded me of when I was using a 6D back in the twenty-four hour period.
  • Missing summit LCD. Most folks don’t miss this, just it’s helpful at nighttime when the LCD screen is too bright.
  • Battery life is a concern even at full charge. I experience like it wasn’t much of a thought w/ a DSLR, simply the R6 uses a lot of juice. I started to plow the camera off whenever not in use.
  • RF 50 drinking glass is insanely expensive. EF L glass was much more affordable at their release dates. At present it’s just ridiculous and discouraging.

I don’t take regrets switching as the R6 is an amazing camera. I just wish information technology was more than MPs.



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I’m a part time professional. Replaced my 6D with an R equally a 2d camera to my 5DsR.
Never used the 5DsR once I got the R.
Much better handling and focusing camera.

Interesting, as my intention is to pair those two cameras…I recall the extra MP will be nice in certain situations.

I went from 5DIV to R6 since November 2021 and my thoughts so far every bit an amateur stills photographer:

PROS R6

  • Autofocus system is very impressive.
    • This was my master reason for upgrading – AF system is the same every bit the 1DX III.
    • Eye-tracking is astonishing. Yous can concentrate on limerick more.
    • EF lenses that had backfocus/frontfocus issues (e.g. Sigma 50mm one.4 Art) piece of work amazingly better
  • You can shoot at very loftier ISOs and there’s barely whatever noise.
  • Lower MPs = less processing power and storage space.
  • Smaller size is appreciated.
  • FPS is meridian notch.

CONS

  • I miss the actress megapixels of the 5DIV.
    • Images are not as detailed and cropping is limited with just xx MP. xxx MP would’ve been really great as the R5’s 45 MP is really a LOT.
    • Less image details reminded me of when I was using a 6D back in the day.
  • Missing acme LCD. Near folks don’t miss this, but information technology’s helpful at nighttime when the LCD screen is likewise bright.
  • Battery life is a concern even at total charge. I feel like it wasn’t much of a idea w/ a DSLR, but the R6 uses a lot of juice. I started to turn the photographic camera off whenever not in use.
  • RF L glass is insanely expensive. EF L glass was much more than affordable at their release dates. At present it’south just ridiculous and discouraging.

I don’t have regrets switching as the R6 is an amazing camera. I merely wish it was more MPs.

Thanks for your thoughts! I agree about battery life – even with the R it uses power significantly faster than the 5D4, which was already fairly power-hungry (by DSLR standards). Information technology’s non quite the R6 in AF, speed or treatment, just at least I don’t have to give up any resolution, or the convenience of the acme display. Saving $1200 is overnice too. I’thousand in total agreement that the R5’s 45MP is fashion more than than I need/want for everyday shooting (26-32MP for me is that sugariness spot)…plus its high cost (coupled with the price of the RF lenses it probable demands) is off-putting. Curious to see how the R fares in the field. The center tracking feature showed some promise in my tests, simply I’ve nevertheless to put it into actual use.



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I switched from the 5D4 to the R6 in late 2020 and I’m very happy. I never touched the 5D4 or the 90D once more, so I sold them and about a dozen EF lenses to a large used photographic camera company several months agone. What do I love most the R6?

  1. Very reliable center tracking autofocus
  2. No demand for microfocus adjustment
  3. Flippy LCD screen
  4. Fewer megapixels
  5. Inexpensive retentivity cards
  6. The 24-105 F/4 kit lens

What do I hate about the R6?

  1. Obscenely expensive L lenses for the RF mount.

I mostly shoot still photos with models in the studio and on location, and then if you lot are into video, wildlife, concerts or billboards, your mileage volition vary. I produce a high volume of images that are e’er compressed for online sales, which means that the smaller files are a large help in my workflow. I’g extremely impressed with the RF 24-105 F/iv lens. It’s equally precipitous as my old EF 24-70 F/two.8 Fifty which was my workhorse lens for the 5D4 and 5D3. I also get a lot of use out of the RF 35mm F/1.8, which is sharper than you might think. I have three other RF lenses, but don’t use them much.



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That makes sense, I’m sure the smaller files are an advantage in specific scenarios. I also concord that the RF 35mm 1.viii delivers from an optical perspective – I like it on both the RP and R. I only accept the 35 and 85 at this point, although I’ll be adding the 24-105 before long. I was originally thinking of just adapting the EF version (which I’ll keep for the time beingness) merely ergonomically I observe I prefer using the native lenses TBH. Hopefully it is equally skillful equally I’ve been hearing in reviews…


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