6d Mark II owners: is the AF points spread limiting you?
6d Mark II owners: is the AF points spread limiting you?
Feb 22, 2018
Long story brusk: am because a motion to FF from my 80d.
Biggest drawback of the 6d MkII to me is the AF points spread just I’d like to hear from actual users of the photographic camera how is the spread affecting your composition and how reliable information technology is.
Thanks!
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Re: 6d Mark II owners: is the AF points spread limiting yous?
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Information technology’due south non bothering to me, All the same use the focus –>recompose technique on all our systems.
Once in a while i’ll select an other focus indicate or section, but 97% of the time heart point is used.
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Re: 6d Mark Two owners: is the AF points spread limiting you?
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I try to avoid focus and recompose, especially when dealing with broad Apertures.
I estimate that if I’d use the technique I’d rather take the original 6d then :/
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Re: No, it isn’t. However…
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Great Bustard wrote:
Otto Sporteman wrote:
Long story short: am considering a motility to FF from my 80d.
Biggest drawback of the 6d MkII to me is the AF points spread simply I’d like to hear from actual users of the camera how is the spread affecting your composition and how reliable it is.
Cheers!
…my previous camera was the 6D, and the outer AF points were not very useful, and so I never used them, whereas the outer AF points work smashingly well with the 6D2. So, while the spread is non equally large as I would like, it’s a lot bigger than just using the center AF signal on the 6D.
Since y’all’re coming from the 80D, however, you may find it something of an issue, as the AF points embrace only 2/three as much of the width and top of the viewfinder on the 6D2 equally they practice on the 80D.
I’ve always fix my Camera’southward to shoot centre Signal in Mural mode, and to the right of Middle for Portrait (Camera in portrait mode the point is about 2/3rds upward). The 6D MkII has plenty of a spread to do that nicely, and a bit more choice of sweet spot over the 6D. Just other than those as default, I’m finding the flippy screen touch and focus damn handy, and I’ll normally do that than recollect how to change focus points, as it’s unlike to my 7D MkII.
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Re: No, it isn’t. Nevertheless…
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I desire to avert focus and recompose the more that I can, especially on events/weddings.
The 1.5 to 2 stops of iso performance may not exist able to bring me to FF as of at present, I guess :/
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Yeah it’due south irritating
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Otto Sporteman wrote:
Long story brusque: am considering a move to FF from my 80d.
Biggest drawback of the 6d MkII to me is the AF points spread only I’d like to hear from actual users of the camera how is the spread affecting your limerick and how reliable it is.
Thanks!
I have both cameras. The AF coverage of the 6DII leaves you doing the focus and recompose thing in a lot of situations. And on a FF photographic camera that technique is less forgiving.
On the plus side, Single-Point Spot AF is something I find very useful and defective in the 80D. And having an articulating bear upon display on a FF camera is a astonishing – as you would await having the 80D. Then when you are using alive view for low angle shots and such, the AF bespeak spread issue goes away, only yous lose the precision of Single-Point Spot AF. Personally, I would say that the articulating bear on display has opened up more composition possibilities than the smaller AF coverage has limited me.
On residuum, I don’t think the 6D2 is a FF replacement for the 80D. I don’t feel like I could give up the 80D for video, travel, sports and wildlife. If Catechism had but fabricated a FF 80D it would be my ideal.
That said, I have no regrets about buying the 6D2 (with all of its limitations). I view the 6D2 as a improve camera than the 80D with most of the weighting going to the fact that information technology’southward FF.
The most important thing to await at with the 6D2 is the price. If yous can get it for <$1400, it volition be worth it. Simply go on the 80D until yous have used both for a niggling while.
Just my $0.02.
Re: 6d Mark 2 owners: is the AF points spread limiting you?
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Through all my dislike towards the 6DII, the focus systems is actually not too bad. The focus points are certainly much closer together than most hoped but they are very accurate.
When I hired the camera I was actually impressed by the focus system but I must acknowledge that I take no result using single centre point focus on the original 6D.
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Re: Aye information technology’s irritating
In answer to Silvex •
Feb 23, 2018
Silvex wrote:
Otto Sporteman wrote:
Long story curt: am considering a move to FF from my 80d.
Biggest drawback of the 6d MkII to me is the AF points spread merely I’d like to hear from actual users of the camera how is the spread affecting your composition and how reliable information technology is.
Cheers!
I have both cameras. The AF coverage of the 6DII leaves you doing the focus and recompose affair in a lot of situations. And on a FF camera that technique is less forgiving.
On the plus side, Single-Betoken Spot AF is something I find very useful and lacking in the 80D. And having an articulating touch display on a FF camera is a amazing – as you would wait having the 80D. Then when y’all are using live view for low angle shots and such, the AF point spread issue goes away, but you lose the precision of Single-Point Spot AF. Personally, I would say that the articulating impact display has opened up more composition possibilities than the smaller AF coverage has limited me.
On balance, I don’t think the 6D2 is a FF replacement for the 80D. I don’t experience similar I could surrender the 80D for video, travel, sports and wildlife. If Catechism had simply made a FF 80D information technology would be my ideal.
That said, I have no regrets about buying the 6D2 (with all of its limitations). I view the 6D2 as a amend camera than the 80D with most of the weighting going to the fact that information technology’s FF.
The most important thing to look at with the 6D2 is the price. If yous can get it for <$1400, it volition exist worth information technology. But keep the 80D until yous have used both for a lilliputian while.
Just my $0.02.
That’south the depth I was looking for and given you also have the 80d it’s just a perfect fit for my scenario.
Unfortunately the just way for me to get the 6D MK Two would be by selling the 80D. And so I think I’ll stick with it a little longer and run across what comes adjacent (or perhaps go along the 80d and get a used 6D or a used 5d Mk III)
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Re: Yes it’s irritating
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Otto Sporteman wrote:
Silvex wrote:
Otto Sporteman wrote:
Long story short: am because a move to FF from my 80d.
Biggest drawback of the 6d MkII to me is the AF points spread only I’d like to hear from actual users of the photographic camera how is the spread affecting your composition and how reliable it is.
Thanks!
I have both cameras. The AF coverage of the 6DII leaves you doing the focus and recompose thing in a lot of situations. And on a FF camera that technique is less forgiving.
On the plus side, Unmarried-Point Spot AF is something I find very useful and lacking in the 80D. And having an articulating bear on brandish on a FF photographic camera is a amazing – as you lot would await having the 80D. And then when you lot are using alive view for low angle shots and such, the AF point spread issue goes away, merely y’all lose the precision of Single-Betoken Spot AF. Personally, I would say that the articulating touch on display has opened upward more composition possibilities than the smaller AF coverage has express me.
On residue, I don’t think the 6D2 is a FF replacement for the 80D. I don’t feel like I could requite upwardly the 80D for video, travel, sports and wildlife. If Canon had simply fabricated a FF 80D it would be my platonic.
That said, I have no regrets about buying the 6D2 (with all of its limitations). I view the 6D2 as a better camera than the 80D with most of the weighting going to the fact that it’s FF.
The most of import thing to look at with the 6D2 is the price. If you can go information technology for <$1400, it volition be worth it. Just keep the 80D until you take used both for a little while.
Simply my $0.02.
That’s the depth I was looking for and given you also have the 80d it’due south just a perfect fit for my scenario.
Unfortunately the but way for me to go the 6D MK II would be by selling the 80D. So I think I’ll stick with it a little longer and come across what comes next (or perhaps keep the 80d and become a used 6D or a used 5d Mk III
Or just wait for the right price on the 6D2. Adorama had it for $1350 (afterwards rebate) which included a grip, SD card, photo printer and paper. Which means the price of the torso was effectually $1000, Those kinds of deals are coming back at some betoken. Savor the 80D and keep watching.
Re: Yes it’s irritating
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Feb 23, 2018
Silvex wrote:
Otto Sporteman wrote:
Silvex wrote:
Otto Sporteman wrote:
Long story brusque: am considering a motility to FF from my 80d.
Biggest drawback of the 6d MkII to me is the AF points spread but I’d like to hear from actual users of the photographic camera how is the spread affecting your limerick and how reliable it is.
Thanks!
I have both cameras. The AF coverage of the 6DII leaves you lot doing the focus and recompose matter in a lot of situations. And on a FF camera that technique is less forgiving.
On the plus side, Unmarried-Betoken Spot AF is something I observe very useful and lacking in the 80D. And having an articulating touch display on a FF camera is a astonishing – as you would await having the 80D. So when yous are using alive view for low bending shots and such, the AF point spread issue goes away, but you lose the precision of Unmarried-Point Spot AF. Personally, I would say that the articulating bear on display has opened up more than composition possibilities than the smaller AF coverage has limited me.
On residual, I don’t think the 6D2 is a FF replacement for the 80D. I don’t feel similar I could give up the 80D for video, travel, sports and wildlife. If Canon had merely made a FF 80D it would be my platonic.
That said, I have no regrets well-nigh buying the 6D2 (with all of its limitations). I view the 6D2 as a improve camera than the 80D with most of the weighting going to the fact that it’southward FF.
The about important thing to await at with the 6D2 is the price. If you lot can get information technology for <$1400, it will be worth information technology. But keep the 80D until you have used both for a little while.
But my $0.02.
That’s the depth I was looking for and given you also have the 80d it’due south just a perfect fit for my scenario.
Unfortunately the only fashion for me to get the 6D MK II would exist by selling the 80D. So I remember I’ll stick with it a picayune longer and see what comes side by side (or maybe proceed the 80d and get a used 6D or a used 5d Mk III
Or just expect for the right price on the 6D2. Adorama had it for $1350 (after rebate) which included a grip, SD menu, photograph printer and paper. Which means the toll of the torso was around $g, Those kinds of deals are coming back at some point. Savor the 80D and keep watching.
Problem is (plot twist): I’one thousand not from the Us. Should take disclosed that primarily, sorry.
I’grand from Brazil and have a travel planned in March, to Japan, where I intend on buying a new torso and some lens.
As of now, the plans were to get a full frame camera + Canon 24-105L and peradventure Tamron 28-75 2.8 since it’due south muddied inexpensive new and seems to take a good optical quality.
Long story brusk: am because a movement to FF from my 80d.
Biggest drawback of the 6d MkII to me is the AF points spread but I’d like to hear from bodily users of the camera how is the spread affecting your composition and how reliable it is.
Cheers!
I accept both cameras. The AF coverage of the 6DII leaves you doing the focus and recompose thing in a lot of situations. And on a FF photographic camera that technique is less forgiving.
On the plus side, Single-Point Spot AF is something I find very useful and lacking in the 80D. And having an articulating bear upon display on a FF photographic camera is a amazing – as you would await having the 80D. So when you are using live view for low angle shots and such, the AF bespeak spread issue goes away, just you lot lose the precision of Single-Point Spot AF. Personally, I would say that the articulating touch display has opened up more limerick possibilities than the smaller AF coverage has express me.
On balance, I don’t think the 6D2 is a FF replacement for the 80D. I don’t experience like I could give up the 80D for video, travel, sports and wildlife. If Catechism had just fabricated a FF 80D it would exist my platonic.
That said, I have no regrets about buying the 6D2 (with all of its limitations). I view the 6D2 equally a amend photographic camera than the 80D with most of the weighting going to the fact that it’s FF.
The well-nigh important affair to wait at with the 6D2 is the price. If you can become it for <$1400, it will be worth information technology. But keep the 80D until you accept used both for a footling while.
Merely my $0.02.
That’southward the depth I was looking for and given y’all also have the 80d it’southward just a perfect fit for my scenario.
Unfortunately the but manner for me to get the 6D MK Ii would be by selling the 80D. So I think I’ll stick with it a footling longer and meet what comes next (or perchance proceed the 80d and go a used 6D or a used 5d Mk III
Or simply wait for the right cost on the 6D2. Adorama had information technology for $1350 (after rebate) which included a grip, SD card, photo printer and newspaper. Which means the price of the body was around $grand, Those kinds of deals are coming back at some point. Savor the 80D and keep watching.
Problem is (plot twist): I’m non from the United states of america. Should accept disclosed that primarily, sorry.
I’m from Brazil and have a travel planned in March, to Japan, where I intend on buying a new body and some lens.
As of now, the plans were to go a total frame camera + Canon 24-105L and perhaps Tamron 28-75 2.8 since it’due south dirty cheap new and seems to have a proficient optical quality.
Yeah that’s not as simple. Information technology all depends on the strength of the Brazilian Real vs the Japanese Yen. Have fun anyhow!
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Re: 6d Mark Two owners: is the AF points spread limiting you?
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Otto Sporteman wrote:
Long story brusk: am considering a motility to FF from my 80d.
Biggest drawback of the 6d MkII to me is the AF points spread but I’d like to hear from actual users of the photographic camera how is the spread affecting your composition and how reliable it is.
Thanks!
It does irritate me some. Coming from a crop its noticeable, merely the spread isnt as different from other full frames equally I was lead to believe. There are some pics of the onetime 6d, new 5div and the 6dii focus points/viewfinder overlapping and its pretty pocket-sized difference.
Its unremarkably not a problem at all. The focus is VERY authentic and I use whatever poijt is closest and so recompose if needed, which isnt that often. I too use libe view some which has crawly focusing and tracking equally long as the subject isnt moving to fast, and rapidly moving subjects is when its an annoyance to me. Im kind of used to information technology now though.
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Re: 6d Mark II owners: is the AF points spread limiting y’all?
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Otto Sporteman wrote:
Long story short: am because a move to FF from my 80d.
Biggest drawback of the 6d MkII to me is the AF points spread
you realize the 6D2 has the 80D autofocus system correct, just with the wider 35 mm view?
but I’d like to hear from actual users of the camera how is the spread affecting your composition and how reliable it is.
Thanks!
Remember, the 6D2 autofocus system is vastly better than the 5D2 autofocus system!
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Re: 6d Mark Two owners: is the AF points spread limiting y’all?
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Feb 25, 2018
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The other thing I cam confidentally add together is that the focus accurateness and speed has been impressive to me. Far more authentic than my 70d. Particularly in lowlight. I cant compare to the 80d, but from what I remember, in terms of speed, accurateness and lowlight focus the lxx and 80 are like.
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Re: 6d Marker II owners: is the AF points spread limiting you?
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Feb 25, 2018
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RedFox88 wrote:
Otto Sporteman wrote:
Long story short: am because a motion to FF from my 80d.
Biggest drawback of the 6d MkII to me is the AF points spread
you realize the 6D2 has the 80D autofocus arrangement correct, but with the wider 35 mm view?
but I’d like to hear from bodily users of the camera how is the spread affecting your composition and how reliable it is.
Thanks!
Call up, the 6D2 autofocus system is vastly better than the 5D2 autofocus organization!
Yeah, I practice realize information technology’s the same af organisation merely since 35mm frame is larger, the points are clustered in the middle and not spread wide plenty for composing, especially with shallower depth of field.
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c h u due north m wrote:
The other thing I cam confidentally add together is that the focus accurateness and speed has been impressive to me. Far more than authentic than my 70d. Peculiarly in lowlight. I cant compare to the 80d, but from what I remember, in terms of speed, accurateness and lowlight focus the seventy and 80 are similar.
That is non my experience with the 70D and 80D.
The AF operation of the 70D’s that I’ve owned was non great, especially not in low light situations. I’chiliad much happier with the 80D’s that I’ve replaced them with. I believe it is still not as skilful every bit that of a 5D4, for example in keeping focus on animals running towards you lot, but I also did non expect the autofocus of the much cheaper 80D to be of the aforementioned level.
I believe that I read somewhere that the AF system of the 80D (and I presume the 6D2) was rated past Canon to work in light as low as EV -3 whereas the AF system of the 70D was rated to work until EV -0.v.
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Re: 6d Mark II owners: is the AF points spread limiting you?
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c h u northward grand wrote:
There are some pics of the old 6d, new 5div and the 6dii focus points/viewfinder overlapping and its pretty small deviation.
Hmmm actually it’s pretty substantial betwixt the 5D4 and 6D2:
5D4 (red) vs 6D2 (blackness)
The 5D4’due south AF point spread is virtually 35% (linear) bigger.
And 6D vs 6D2:
6D (blue) vs 6D2 (black)
The 6D’southward left and right points are slightly wider simply the 6D2’southward corner points are much amend, so while full coverage is not vastly unlike the MkII does have the advantage. And the 6D2’s AF signal density is in a different class – y’all’re much more likely to find one close to where you need.
Re: 6d Mark Two owners: is the AF points spread limiting you?
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Feb 26, 2018
cdw1 wrote:
c h u north k wrote:
The other thing I cam confidentally add is that the focus accuracy and speed has been impressive to me. Far more accurate than my 70d. Especially in lowlight. I cant compare to the 80d, but from what I remember, in terms of speed, accuracy and lowlight focus the seventy and 80 are similar.
That is non my experience with the 70D and 80D.
The AF operation of the 70D’s that I’ve owned was non peachy, especially not in low low-cal situations. I’m much happier with the 80D’due south that I’ve replaced them with. I believe it is still not as practiced as that of a 5D4, for example in keeping focus on animals running towards y’all, merely I likewise did not await the autofocus of the much cheaper 80D to be of the same level.
I believe that I read somewhere that the AF system of the 80D (and I assume the 6D2) was rated by Catechism to work in low-cal as low as EV -three whereas the AF system of the 70D was rated to work until EV -0.five.
I share the same experience.. my 80d autofocus has been great and fulfilled my needs.
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Re: 6d Mark II owners: is the AF points spread limiting you?
Steve Balcombe wrote:
c h u n thousand wrote:
There are some pics of the sometime 6d, new 5div and the 6dii focus points/viewfinder overlapping and its pretty small difference.
Hmmm really information technology’s pretty substantial betwixt the 5D4 and 6D2:
5D4 (cherry-red) vs 6D2 (black)
The 5D4’s AF point spread is nigh 35% (linear) bigger.
And 6D vs 6D2:
6D (blue) vs 6D2 (black)
The 6D’due south left and right points are slightly wider but the 6D2’s corner points are much better, so while full coverage is not vastly different the MkII does have the reward. And the 6D2’due south AF point density is in a dissimilar grade – yous’re much more likely to find one close to where y’all demand.
Great response, as always, Steve!
To me the 6d MK II is a decent upgrade over the original, just the AF spread is preventing me from the purchase.
It seems I’ll exist stuck with crop for a little longer…
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