Difference Between 200 And 400 Film

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Melvin England



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Until recently,I unremarkably avoided buying a 200’cutting-down when a 400’was available of the aforementioned film, as I assumed the 400’would contain both longer scenes and additional footage not seen in the 200′.

Later on reading other threads on this forum, it is becoming apparent that this is not the example.I recently DID buy both the 200′ and 400′ versions of The Muppet Movie to find they are completely different, with the 200′ being able to exist slotted into the 400’at the correct point to create an excellent 600 footer with the storyline even so flowing properly.

Does someone have a listing of the films available where the 200′ is a completely unlike edit/unlike scenes to the 400’version?

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Mary Poppins The Super Nanny – Silent version 200′

Mary Poppins The Super Nanny – Sound version 200′

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Hullo Melvin

Walton Films 200′ editions of movies were frequently used completely dissimilar cloth than the 400′ version. ‘Vampire Circus’ is another example and I think the idea was the two could be edited together to produce a longer digest. Universal 8 200′ classic horror titles also sometimes used sequences not included in their 400′ counterparts, ‘Helpmate Of Frankenstein’ and ‘The Mummy’s Ghost’ spring to mind merely were these meant to stand up as separate entities.

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I’ve never seen it but I believe the Ken 200′ release ‘Patton’ is entirely a speech not in the ‘400.

Does anyone know if the Walton 200′ of ‘Curse of the Ruddy Altar’ features any footage not in the 2 ten 400′?

Incidentally, the 200′ from ‘Vampire Circus’ (which is a slightly edited version of the film’s very long pre-credits sequence) even has a couple of shots not in the 4 10 400′!

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Micheal ….

On that “Super Nanny” difference, did you lot notice that the silent version had a slight letterboxing to the epitome also?

I noticed that.
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Not quite on topic, Melvin, but forth a similar idea, the 3x400ft version of “Superman The Film” is notorious for missing scenes that were in the shorter 400ft version – including the ending with Superman delivering Lex Luther to prison.

A search on the forum volition lead to lots of details on this from our many knowledgeable members.

As well, just to follow on from Michael’s “The Super Nanny”, Disney’s 200ft colour / silent version of “The Aristocats” is a really lovely condensation of the whole movie (with subtitles), whilst the 200ft colour / audio version is basically the “Everybody wants to be a Cat” number – totally dissimilar.

EDIT: Let’s not forget the 200ft version of “Star Wars”, which contains extra scenes than both the 400ft versions…again, take a search on the forum.
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Rob – I noticed that. I take both versions of Superman. This is only something that has never occurred to me until recently that the shorter films can oft contain different scenes altogether.
Some other example similar to Superman, is Summer Holiday starring Cliff Richard. The 4x 400′ version only includes the first few bars of the song, in that famous scene where Cliff is at the wheel of the bus. The 400′ at least manages to contain a bit of the song too.

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I feel like out of the Universal horror titles, the biggest difference might be the 200′ and 400′ versions of FRANKENSTEIN MEETS THE WOLF MAN. Pretty big difference with SON OF FRANKENSTEIN, also.


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Might be worth mentioning the difference between 400ft Ken and Piccolo versions of the same championship.

All-time example is “The Omen II”. The Ken version is ok, but the Piccolo version is totally different, with a much ameliorate story and more temper.



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Adrian,
Ken Films offered a 200′ (and 400′) version of “Patton” along with the entire opening voice communication available equally a separate 200′ reel. The speech reel is somewhat rare these days but the 200′ & 400′ digests always seem to be available.

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