Why Is Adobe So Expensive Now

By | 10/11/2022
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Benzychenz


  • #1
I did inDesign work today for my employer, and plant out that my Adobe CS6 programs I got dorsum in schoolhouse (so with student discounts) were not compatible with pages created with the current versions. No large deal, downloaded the costless seven twenty-four hour period trial for the new version.

Problem is, I found out my updated Adobe Acrobat has run past its trial period. I use Acrobat for everything, so thought I’d buy the newer version.

$22 a month? For a pdf viewer?

I meet underneath you can do a 1 fourth dimension buy for a 2017 version, that might work.

AU $731

What

The

Fuck

This is direct up highway robbery. How is this a thing??

I’m scared to fifty-fifty cheque how much Photoshop and inDesign cost.


Zenkuso



Akira86


  • #3
marketplace manipulation and lack of contest


Iamcenok


  • #iv
Niggling to no competition for a long fourth dimension. Even with more than robust products that compete for the aforementioned ability user, Adobe is considered an industry standard.


BLEEN


  • #5
In that location are a meg amend PDF readers rather than Acrobat, which honestly is archaic compared to others.


johan


  • #six
Because they can lmao

Serif makes great alternatives though. I employ Analogousness Photograph instead of Photoshop



  • #vii
Adobe acrobat is gratuitous, yous don’t demand the paid version just for reading pdfs.

Download the Affinity suite, ameliorate in many means than adobe and I think they still have a ninety day trial?


Gay Bowser


  • #8
They’re professional tools, and they’re priced similar information technology. Unlike consumers, businesses don’t bat an heart at paying for software if information technology helps them brand money.

You don’t demand to spend coin for a “PDF viewer.” Acrobat Reader is costless. macOS tin display them out of the box with Preview, too.


Benzychenz


  • #9
They’re professional tools, and they’re priced similar it. Unlike consumers, businesses don’t bat an heart at paying for software if it makes them money.

Just these are the individual license prices. There’s a whole other section for business licenses.


Dreaver


  • #10
The worst is you lot pay a lot of money for the software, but information technology’southward non fifty-fifty stable and quite buggy (Premiere).


Marcus Aurelius


  • #11
This is what a true monopoly looks like.


KartuneDX


  • #12
Adobe acrobat is gratis, yous don’t need the paid version just for reading pdfs.

Download the Affinity suite, better in many ways than adobe and I remember they even so take a xc day trial?

is in that location whatever alternative for editing PDFs?


RastaMentality


  • #13
An farthermost monopoly. Captive audience.


Gay Bowser


  • #14
But these are the individual license prices. There’s a whole other section for business licenses.

And? It’due south still software aimed at concern employ.

You asked, and I gave y’all the almost correct answer. Adobe products are expensive because their target market, professionals, is willing to pay.


GrrImAFridge



m_shortpants


  • #16
And? It’due south still software aimed at business use.

Y’all asked, and I gave you lot the most correct reply. Adobe products are expensive because their target market, professionals, is willing to pay.

This. It’s enterprise software. The value of the software in the context of the entire concern’south operations is greater than its cost.


HotAndTender


  • #17
Y’all tin can go the whole Creative Cloud suite for £30ish pounds a calendar month, if you utilise information technology daily information technology’ll pay for itself.
OP ask your employer to pay for a subscription.



  • #eighteen
is at that place any culling for editing PDFs?

Its an atrocious awful hack, just if you’re desperate you tin open (ane page of) a PDF in Inkscape and edit it, then save dorsum (that one folio of grade).

I’one thousand sure someone makes a much better non-free app that does it though. The format isn’t hole-and-corner.



  • #19
is there any alternative for editing PDFs?

Foxit is actually pretty proficient.



  • #twenty
is there any culling for editing PDFs?

Zilch as powerful equally DC but smallpdf will practice xc% of the same thing and it’s complimentary to employ in your web browser.

The worst is you pay a lot of coin for the software, merely it’s non even stable and quite buggy (Premiere).

Premiere is a joke, I genuinely don’t know how information technology’s used in and so many things. Spend more time trying to prepare crashes and troubleshooting than encarmine video editing sometimes. Thank god for XML and Resolve/Final Cut.


Dreaver


  • #21
Nix as powerful as DC but smallpdf will practice 90% of the aforementioned thing and it’s gratis to use in your web browser.

Premiere is a joke, I genuinely don’t know how it’s used in and then many things. Spend more fourth dimension trying to prepare crashes and troubleshooting than bloody video editing sometimes. Thank god for XML and Resolve/Final Cut.

I use it for my work daily. It’s a really nice program in a lot of ways, especially in how it integrates with other Adobe programs. But that’southward also the whole trouble…

As you said, Anybody uses it, including our clients and partners. This combined with the integration with other Adobe programs (which are the standard: After Effects, Illustrator, Photoshop) makes it really hard to switch.

We tried Davinci Resolve for a while. It’s much more stable and in a lot of ways a superior plan (though the learning curve is way college). However, considering of above reasons the switch was too much of a hassle. Still utilise it for grading though.

I just can’t believe Premiere is such a mess. Have captions for example… Nix works decently, so much frustration and lost fourth dimension.



HommePomme


  • #23
Drib in the saucepan for whatsoever business that relies on their software to make any kind of coin.

Incredibly badly optimized shit considering they’re the manufacture standard


nsilvias


  • #24
they have entire industries past the balls


lazygecko


  • #25
Adobe seems to be function of that special clique of legacy software companies from the 80’southward/90’s whose business model revolved around catering to a smaller customer base of professional clients with the means to pay a hefty sum, and in spite of their product condign vastly popular among hobbyists (who generally just resort to pirating due to the prohibitive costs) they’ve never had the vision to properly expand their model for a much wider consumer base. I remember years ago reading an anecdote from Gabe Newell talking to Adobe leadership about exactly this topic and how they just seemed aristocratic and dumbfounded over the concept.

There’due south always been a scattering of big sometime companies interim this fashion in the visual pattern and audio manufacture in particular who seem to have no interest to adjust to a much more diverse market compared to 25-30 years ago. In spite of their products beingness some of the nearly pirated out there they take no existent interest in trying to convert hobbyist pirates into paying customers.


Graefellsom


  • #26
You couldn’t pay me to employ photoshop on the ipad.. I can’t believe how bad it is and bewildered that it hasn’t been updated. I pay a £9 sub on desktop every bit information technology does a few things I really need.

If Affinity is every bit bad on desktop equally information technology is on the ipad i’m not surprised Adobe hasn’t felt the need to abandon it’s extortionate business model.

Procreate remains the best £nine/x I ever spent, all for the toll of a ane month photoshop sub.


KentP


  • #27
We employ Nitro Pro at piece of work which is much cheaper than Acrobat (though still not ‘cheap‘ per se)


BlackGoku03


  • #28
But these are the individual license prices. There’s a whole other department for business licenses.

I believe theres a section for private licenses and another for multiple licenses. It’southward easier to buy a package of 500 at once. Probably makes it easier for any software they use to prototype workstations. Businesses don’t bat an heart at paying information technology either.

That’s typically how software manufacturers like to license stuff, anyhow.


ItchyTasty


  • #29
I utilize Illustrator a lot, but I would dear a cheaper culling that’s on the aforementioned level.

Whatever recommendations?


RestEerie


  • #xxx
supply/need + lack of competition.

there isn’t an alternative of reasonable quality for professionals.

No, before anyone mentioned Gimp, that’southward only suitable for home utilise.

Macromedia used to exist Adobe’southward competitor in the early 2000s…………until Adobe bought them


Crispy75



Sec0nd


  • #32
Enterprise products and arguably the all-time software out there. And honestly, the monthly fee for the entire suite isn’t all that bad. I use Premiere, Audience, After Effects, and InDesign pretty regularly. I’m just glad you don’t have to purchase the software anymore because that would’ve been crazy and would’ve express my software usage to ane program max.


show me your skeleton


  • #33
I apply Illustrator a lot, but I would love a cheaper culling that’s on the same level.

Any recommendations?

https://analogousness.serif.com/en-gb/ might be worth a look? very practiced price right now though i can’t speak to its quality etc as i’m highly confused by vector drawing


DiipuSurotu


  • #34
I wish Gimp weren’t so stubborn. When you criticize their UI their response is basically “Our UI is good, you just don’t want to take the time to familiarize yourself with it”. Yeah no, it’s a shitty UI and that’s considering the developers working on Gimp are not actual graphists/designers.


Vector


  • #35
They have monopolized large swaths of the creative marketplace and take niggling competition.

I sometimes practice graphic/web pattern – ditched Illustrator and Photoshop for Affinity Designer + Photo, and although I don’t think they’re as expert yet (in fact I’d say they withal have a long way to get) I find them to exist proficient enough and the adjustments to my workflow were minimal.

Try to escape the Adobe bubble if you can – the more than competition there is, the better.



  • #36
Creative Deject is astonishing value. Maybe non for one-offs only what you lot become for the sub is insane.


Yes


  • #37
They’re professional tools, and they’re priced like information technology.

They are. Industry standard and all that. I’ve been rocking their shit for quite a while. There’s a really high wall for me to jump to another suite or set of programs.

The leasing side of the license is frustrating just “modern” and maybe undestandable. You don’t really own the programs anymore. But maybe the well-nigh baffling thing is the usability is all over the place. The shortcuts differ beyond the board and rules might not apply. And there are things you lot can’t customize. Well maybe with plugins you can but it shouldn’t be like that. I’ve been let down multiple times past the bad integration betwixt programs and the overall optimatization.


supernormal


  • #38
I pay for the whole suite but honestly, in that location should exist more than competition and alternatives. Like actual large-proper name competition. They do in some categories, like video, and audio but that’s not near enough.



  • #39
There are a million better PDF readers rather than Acrobat, which honestly is archaic compared to others.

which would you lot recommend?


degauss


  • #twoscore
Analogousness suite is probably good enough for near people now.


Dark Ninja


  • #41
They cornered the software market as well they buy upwardly companies that threaten them. At that place is such an over-saturation when it comes to small programs trying to find their footing they dice presently subsequently their release due to monetary reason and lack of support.


Jakten


  • #42
Greed. I always retrieve near how the electric current CEO (I call back it was) of Adobe was surprised to find out that people use photoshop to draw. These greedy assholes keep to make the program worse because they don’t even know why people usethem in the first identify and they wait you to pay for it yearly now as well.

There are so many gratuitous alternatives that tin can do just as good of a task. I’ve managed to piece of work in the games Industry for like 12 years using almost exclusively complimentary programs like Paint Tool SAI, Krita or Blender.


Fatoy


  • #43
Standards, in a word. If y’all piece of work in graphic design, you need to exist able to open and export to PSD. If yous work in publishing, you’re going to need to be able to work with native INDD files, since the markup language they added “for compatibility” is pretty crap. If you download a vector file, odds are it’s coming in AI format.

Luckily, other creative applications – most notably the Affinity suite – are catching up to Adobe’due south equivalents in terms of functionality, and they also support all those Adobe file formats. Publisher was the last domino to fall there, when they added support for InDesign files a couple of months ago.

This is the same approach that’s happening with the Substance suite, but it’s going to be worse in that location. Adobe are promoting a rich standard format – SBSAR – that works beyond the major real-time engines and offline renderers, and obviously yous need to subscribe to apply Substance Designer and Substance Painter. Only in this example, they’re ahead of the game in terms of digital materials with the Substance Source library / storefront, then they’re poised to corner a market very early. This is different Adobe Stock, which came fashion later penetration of PhotoShop and InDesign was near-total. Substance Source is already at that place.


NotLiquid


  • #44
I use Illustrator a lot, but I would dear a cheaper alternative that’due south on the same level.

Any recommendations?

Clip Studio Paint. The standard Pro version is available for $49 while the much more characteristic rich EX version goes for $219, though it semi-ofttimes goes on sale. It’due south arguably the all-time Photoshop/Illustrator competitor as far as illustration software is concerned and is chock full of materials (3D models, tools for blitheness, tools for making comics, vector layers, asset shop with bunch of free brushes/materials, etc.) There’southward a gratis trial bachelor likewise so information technology’due south worth giving a shot.


ItchyTasty


  • #45
https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/ might be worth a look? very adept cost right at present though i tin’t speak to its quality etc as i’thousand highly confused past vector cartoon
Clip Studio Pigment. The standard Pro version is available for $49 while the much more than feature rich EX version goes for $219, though it semi-oft goes on sale. Information technology’s arguably the best Photoshop/Illustrator competitor as far as illustration software is concerned and is chock full of materials (3D models, tools for animation, tools for making comics, vector layers, nugget store with bunch of gratuitous brushes/materials, etc.) There’s a free trial available as well so it’s worth giving a shot.

Give thanks you both! I’ll check them out.


Pororoka


  • #46
I just want a PDF viewer with skilful preflight capabilities. Acrobat is the but one that does it as far every bit I’g concerned


Rassilon


  • #47
Standards, in a give-and-take. If you work in graphic design, you need to be able to open up and export to PSD. If you work in publishing, you’re going to need to be able to work with native INDD files, since the markup language they added “for compatibility” is pretty crap. If you lot download a vector file, odds are information technology’s coming in AI format.

yep, equally an illustrator that is ofttimes required and expected to use formats in PS, AI, ID and AE information technology’due south hard to escape the CC zone

i expect that if i
but
drew pictures, i could get away with an alternative, just at the moment I can’t quite effigy out another way to manage drawing, animation, book design, (my publisher only uses ID), pdf management & vectors etc.


Herr Starr


  • #48
The simplest answer is that they’re priced this high considering people will pay this much.

I say that as someone who has subscribed to the full Creative Cloud suite for over two years.


eZipsis


  • #49
I bought CS5.v Master Collection a long time ago when I was a student. Creative Cloud is simply far also expensive for me when I just utilize information technology as a hobby now.

What sucks is that Adobe no longer offering the installer, so if my bulldoze ever dies or when I want to build a new pc I’m not sure how I’ll be able to reinstall.

Oh and yeah, we Australians become ripped off hard.


Platy


  • #l
I use Illustrator a lot, but I would beloved a cheaper alternative that’south on the same level.

Whatever recommendations?



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